/bs/ - backstory

well i hope u didn't start vaping

i vaped when i visited glasgow and was staying w/ some degenerate trannies. they're pretty cool, taste nice, and being able to do it indoors is comfy. but i would be very conserned about the health effects from the chemicals etc. so i haven't used since

i smoke maybe 2-4 packs of cigarettes a year. and use maybe ~5 discs of nicotine pouches. so i use pretty intermittently

I dont, i either smoke or use nicotine pouch

I think vaping is kinda sus

>>268756
Nah, just surveying the field. Vaping in Asia is currently an ongoing epidemic, my mom would vape but it is currently young people thing only…

Eh, in Russia at least technically the standards for vape liquid are okay and forbid diacetyl and stuff. So, it is not as harmful as cigarettes, though, yeah vape isnt harmless

Have you ever been a smoker? You say you still smoke on smaller scale, though, it seems like it is a simulating thing for brain or some thing
>>268757
I see, so, have you been a strong smoker? Do you think dat smoking is healthier than vape?

>>268760
my mum is very snobbish about smoking (and alcohol, gambling, etc) and would never smoke, and complains endlessly when i do (even tho i'm adult). tho it's probably for the best

well i was noob and thought it's water vapour or sth, so i was concerned just learning it's sth else. well haven't researched properly but don't trust it. or the flavour chemicals (there's many, and some r bad ones)

i was never proper smoker, other than maybe when vacationing. for long time it was once a week thing, or once a day on some week. (when vacationing could be 2-4 a day) but, i'm only now noticing how bad that once a day or once every few days was, bc it's just enough time to make me bit irritated and stressed from the withdrawal, which is imo more unhealthy than a few more cigarettes would have been
i don't notice much concentration or brain effect, more it's just comfy for me (tho some say it being destressing is just the end of the nicotine withdrawal itself)
biggest reason i use is that nicotine is neuroprotective, and raises ur heart rate a bit, even when sleeping, which makes ur dreams more vivid. on other hand it's vasoconstrictor, so some cells will be getting less oxygen. that's y i prefer alternating periods of use and abstinence, thinking i can get both benefits

>>268762
So, you have not a lot of smokers in your family then? Thats kinda a very cool mom to be honest…

I see, well, vaping is recommended for smoking addicted people as a way to stop smoking because it is far less damaging to health and effective… if you decrease the nicotine gradually, then you can be nicotine free too

Eh I like smoke a cigarette maybe once or twice in life. Im kinda a snob to all things harmful I guess

Damn, you like this transhumanist thing… Or how else do I describe this? Any way, dat surely sounds like addiction… addicted people always find a way to be addicted… Though, increased heart rate sounds kinda bad though, I thought dat under constant stress heart increaes in size slowly or some thing

>>268919
no, tho some social smokers, where u just never smoke normally but may smoke in social setting when others r doing it

i don't know if dats true. like, problem w/ vaping is that ur able to do it 10x more in volume than cigarettes, u can take puffs all day, so ur lungs suffer. dunno which has worse chemicals, probably tobacco, tho vape ones r less studied

when u smoke rarely like that even a weak one makes u pretty sick. like jjust few inhalations is enough. i usually buy the orange american spirit ones, the weakest ones, and even then it's a bit much. and don't like the brands for the thin woman cigarettes

well i like the idea, but since i'm not drug pro like drug swede or sth, it's mostly just small things. would be nice to have arbitrary access to drugs, but i don't like dat i have to either pay doctor or drug dealer and other middlemen
>Any way, dat surely sounds like addiction…
yeh ur rite. it's rationalisation. but still i think i'm pretty clearly less prone to addictive behaviour. like, i have had same opioids for +5 years, but i'm still able to use then just few times a year, when it's useful. normally those r considered pretty dangerous. only substance i would be scared to try would be heroin
>increased heart rate sounds kinda bad though
well coffe does that too, or any other stimulants. dunno if it's good or bad tho my sport watch registers it as stress

>>268760
i guess, but i dont smoke that much anymore.

do i think smoking is healthier than vape? possibly, but i dont really know. its just been better studied. also there have been mysterious sudden deaths related to vaping, because they have to do with weird liquids and etc. smoking tobacco is just always the same.

>>268932
I see, well, dat sounds good… At least social smoking is not habitual smoking and stuff

Nah, dats not it, vaping is different from smoking, you can be puffing all day and it ill be still like one cigarette in harm… or some thing like dat, it is far too lighter on health. In countries with proper regulations, vape liquids would be 100% healthier than cigarette or watever. So, yeah, while there is harm in puffing even healthiest vape, it is nowhere near a cigarette, and if you buy shady liquid then yeah I guess you gonna get popcorn lung

Eh, I think drug is kinda dumb… They have those peptides which work basically increase stats like in RPG game. Well, I dunno, biohacking or watever, doesnt it just a body dysmorphia? Well, gym bro wants those nice cube or watever, women do plastic surgery, or using Ozempic and stuff… So I dunno, I guess people today think dat every thing can be changed and refuse to recognize dat some things couldnt be

Eh, dunno. Well, you can be addicted to pretty much any thing so dunno… I guess since you dont seek a high then you are not really an addict but just dependent on nicotine. Addicts always in constant race to get the highest high as fast as they can… So, yeah, heroin isnt fentanyl…

Dunno, I think constant stress is very detrimental to health… When you go to gym and watever, you get spike in heart rate and dat is actually fine and perhaps healthy, but when your resting heart rate is high then dat is constant stress and it is bad for health all around. I think, dunno, Im not a health expert, wouldnt trust myself on health matters
>>268938
I see, well, wat did make you to smoke though? I would imagine dat people get introduced to smoking in school

Yeah, unregulated liquids can include some uranium level of toxic chemical… Though, I think there is some study on vape and stuff and I guess they recommend vape as a way to stop smoking but they wont recommended vaping. I dont think dat all cigarette is the same tjough, even if you smoke own rolled cigarette then it is only marginally better than store bought one. Yeah, well, if you smoke like infrequently and stuff, dat might not be so bad… but most people if they smoke they drink too, so, I guess its hard to say how harmful is smoking in isolation because it almost never happen like dat…

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>>268952
well the first introduction was with neighbor kid. this was when i was very young maybe around 8 years old. in our neighbor lived this pentecostalist family, very religious, i was friends with the kid that was same age as me. Well the story is that their dad was heavy alcoholic and smoker, so we just stole cigs from him and smoked them in forest. although it wasnt really real smoking like inhaling the smoke but kinda like puffing the smoke. well his dad actually noticed we were doing it, he always noticed when we were up to no good, but he just looked away and never said anything. anyway we did that for some time then my friend moved to another town.

then years went by with no smoking, until in 7th or 8th grade in school, one day we had this hiking day, when we went for a walk in nearby forest. i saw couple of cool kids run off of the main path that we were supposed to walk to the forest. i was curious so i followed them and saw them smoking in a circle. i asked one of them if i can try that and he gave me whole cigarette. i suppose just because they were wanting to see reaction. anyway it went well, they taught me how to smoke properly and from that day i started smoking actively.

nowadays ive been kinda trying to quit the active smoking, and been trying to only smoke every now and then, to avoid the withdrawal symptoms from nicotine i just use the pouches. i think the ideal smoking habit is the hobbit style, where u only smoke when its correct place and time for that, and not letting the withdrawal symptoms tell you do when to smoke.

the thing with the vaping is that i dont even really like the idea of it. it feels sus inhaling in some water vapor with chemicals. where as tobacco is more in touch with nature, since its basically dried plant. that said i dont claim to know that one is better over the other in terms of health, its just intuitive feeling.