No.233392
Nigga sold his sold his soul to xenu
Rated: 3/5
No.233404
says the nigger who uses christian terminology
indo-cucked to the core
No.233406
>>233404Nigga you went from gfur nazi to beleiveing in a fat alcoholic womanisers pyramid scheme
Don't cast stones tom cruise isn't here to defend you :D
Rated: 1/5 No.233409
>>233406scientology is just old buddhism, which is just based on old finno-ugrism, which is the only real and the only religion that matters, because it deals with matters of spirit rather than political countryball beliefs of jews
No.233410
>>233409This is ahistorical
It’s not “Buddhism”
Dianetics is closer to Crowley’s shit than Dharma Realm stuff.
No.233411
In fact Dianetics the term is from the Goddess Diana
No.233412
Unarius > $cientology
Come out to California and you can see the truth Kotkot
Also according to $cientology gays are evil and subhuman
Atleast Unarius dropped the homophobia before Uriel died
No.233413
>>233410thelema took massive inspiration from old buddhism as well
No.233414
>>233409Buddhism and scientology is based on moomins gotya
Rated: 4.5/5 No.233415
>>233413In “old Buddhism” are gays subhuman?
No.233416
I mean I know in Mahayana Buddhism homosexuality is often considered an amoral perversion, but not subhuman tier like with $cientology.
No.233417
>>233412i respect your opinion ody but you dont know what you are talking about
>>233416thats not what old buddhism means
No.233418
>>233417Of course the greater vehicle isn’t your imagined vision of “old Buddhism”
Mainstream Mahayana experts like An Tzu are pretty clear about what homosexuality means and is.
No.233419
Also you are opting to reject what homosexuality means for the $cientology tone scale. You think LRH was happy his son Quentin was a fucking faggot?
No.233420
>>233418when people say old buddhism they refer to teaching of buddha before established buddhist sects
so mahayana is literally the opposite of what is meant by old buddhism
No.233421
>>233420Yeah. If you claim the Pali cannon isn’t “old Buddhism” you are just engaging in myths at that point.
No.233423
When did Kotia make a thread announcing he converted to scientology? How does everyone seem to know this circlejerk information with such security?
I constantly post stuff about myself but ppl always seem to get my personal details wrong lmao.
No.233424
>>233421do you actually think mahayana is just about pali cannon?
No.233425
>>233423Imagine Kotia dies from exposure out on the job in the RPF for being a gay who didn’t become celibate
No.233426
>>233424No, but the Pali Cannon is what is “old Buddhism”.
No.233427
>>233425Ody as always nothing personal but I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
No.233428
>>233426there is no buddha teaching against homosexuality so i dunno why are you so obsessed about the topic
No.233430
>>233429>8 minutesnah im good
No.233431
>>233430LMAOOOOO
Rated: 1.5/5 No.233432
>>233430Hahaha this chair
Rated: 1.5/5 No.233433
>>233429its hard to watch youtube anti-scientologists because most of them are fraud
No.233435
>>233431>>233432>>233433It's hard to watch anything people here post because they always share videos anywhere between 8 minutes to 2 hours to explain something it'd take them 1 minute to type down.
No.233436
>>233435yep, its also lazy to post long ass youtube video, because it says that the person posting it probably cant even put their argument into words, they just blindly assume the youtube video is right
No.233437
>>233435The RPF is basically $cientology prison camp
No.233438
>>233433Funny
Considering LRH was a habitual liar
No.233439
>>233435Ye I know
But that 8 minutes was your cut off is fucking hilarious
That's like saying nope if anything goes over a paragraph (very big brained cut off imo)
Rated: 2/5 No.233441
>>233438so is every person that ever lived, so whats your point?
No.233442
>>233441That is not true persay, if one is to say believe the dharma realm actually persists, why would an enlightened being lie when false consciousness is a key problem?
No.233443
>>233439except it takes me seconds of my life to read a paragraph and I only ignore them if its some wg tier rambling.
If I wanted to watch a 8 minute video I'd watch something I actually cared about tho.
No.233444
>>233438Yes and an alcoholic sex trafficker
Mate say what you want about Muhammad but that was 10 century ago this absolute whopper of a prophet was alive when my mum was a teenager
And there is receipts
Rated: 3/5 No.233445
>>233443Ye fair
Basically if you have to post a youtube video to make a point you don't have point
Rated: 3.5/5 No.233446
>>233442there is no such thing as enlightened perfect person
No.233447
>>233442This is like when westoids think Tibetan Buddhist or “Zen” teachers who get intoxicated or engage in sexual relations are somehow able to provide insight into the dharma realm.
TBH one of the reasons the Dharma Realm Buddhists are epic is that they live the precepts
No.233449
>>233447The dahli lama sucking a kids tounge is totally Buddhist mate what u on about
Rated: 2/5 No.233450
>>233446Never met ryan
Rated: 4.5/5 No.233452
>>233447you have this "westoid" way of thinking that there is magical authenticity or weight in somebodys words because of authority that they posses
how can you ever have any real thoughts when your mindset is set like that
No.233453
>>233446Is Medicine Master a force of dharma or a simple “man”?
No.233454
The Venerable Master Hsuan Hua explains:
"Within Buddhism, Guanshiyin Bodhisattva holds a very important position. Some people say that Guanshiyin Bodhisattva is Chinese and some say he is a Westerner; some say the Bodhisattva is male and some say female. But now I am informing all of you that Guanshiyin Bodhisattva is neither Chinese nor Western, neither male nor female.
No.233455
>>233453master is no master until i see it
like thomas the apostle, i dont believe in none of these constructs until i experience them myself
No.233456
>>233452There are clearly differences in authority as to individuals interact or explain religious movements. That is what my “diss” at Tibetan Buddhism is really getting at. To engage further maybe there is a reason say in mainland China, why Tibetan Buddhism is increasingly popular with the bourgeoisie?
No.233457
>>233455I think this is a clear example of how different $cientology and Buddhism is. In Buddhism, the dharma realm is beyond our senses.
No.233458
>>233457Whereas in $cientology there is a promise to “control MEST”.
No.233459
>>233457Albeit NRMs like Falun Gong claim you can see a dharma wheel or w.e without being enlightened or some shit
No.233460
>>233457"beyond senses" essentially means nothing, since senses is all that we understand
No.233461
>>233460No it doesn't
You can't see infrared doesn't mean it doesn't exist
Rated: 5/5 No.233462
>>233461Which I suppose is a shit reply because you feel it via skin
Rated: 0/5 No.233463
>>233460You can hear a sound but you won’t be able to see the wave in the air.
No.233464
>>233461eh, isnt sight a sense
No.233465
what i meant is that you can sense infrared anyway thought other methods, even though u cant see it
No.233466
>>233463yeah but you can prove it exists with senses
No.233467
>>233465The dharma realm is of course, a reality in Buddhism. You may not see it or sense it, but you live in it.
Buddhism doesn’t mean that by becoming fully realized to your position with the dharma realm doesn’t provide you somehow a reward to control the physical reality we interact with in our false consciousness.
On the other hand $cientology peddles control or mastery of the “MEST”. Why do you need a reward when you beat false consciousness? The answer is that it is fake, or a false dharma.
No.233468
>>233467In that way being an actualized or enlightened being is quite different from being an “operating thetan”.
No.233470
>>233467scientology doesnt think consciousness is false
No.233471
To clarify a broken statement :
Buddhism doesn’t mean that enlightenment or true awareness results in control over the false consciousness, that is for Bodhisattvas and other beings. It simply leads to awareness or actualization.
>>233470The “MEST” is a construct foisted upon thetans.
No.233472
>>233471thats an interpretation, im not gonna argue schools of buddhism
>The “MEST” is a construct foisted upon thetans.construct yeah, but its a construct from agreement, not "foisted"
No.233473
>>233472According to the space opera aspect of $cientology its not exactly an agreed upon series of events.
No.233474
>>233473Hence the whole Galactic Confederation “loyal officers” story
No.233475
>>233473the space opera is least important part of scientology, but sure you might or might not be right
No.233476
>>233473Thought it was,like there is a series of novels in this regard
Or is it because it's over cast time scales
Rated: 1/5 No.233477
>>233476Vast not cast
Rated: 0.5/5 No.233478
>>233476I’m referring to the “most recent implants” which were because of the whole galactic confederation shit as highlighted in OTIII.
No.233479
>>233477Gotta admit only read two of his books and thought it was slop
Rated: 0.5/5 No.233481
>>233478I keep forgetting that you're clued in to this because of wherre you live
Rated: 4.5/5 No.233482
>>233479I only read the OT shit on Wikileaks and xenu.org when clambake hosted em.
No.233483
>>233481Yeah a $cientologist employer tried to recruit my big brother and he quit because he is a staunch agnostic and thinks it’s bullshit
No.233484
>>233481Same reason I am a Unarius fan
They used to have Unarius films late night on PBS put in San Diego. They are based in El Cajon, east county south of where I grew up.
No.233485
>>233484uranius thing is kinda cool ngl, for what i know (very little) they share beliefs with scientology
No.233486
unarius*
No.233487
>>233484Ye it like the summum
I think they all have pyramids in salt lake city haha
ONLY city where you can get legally mummified and that's not a joke haha
The summum had a supreme court battle over it
Rated: 4/5 No.233488
>>233484I would live if somebody did like a proper documentary about all this fringe theology seriously
America is properly the only real place where freedom of religion is an actual thing so why you can even have this
Rated: 1.5/5 No.233489
>>233488I mean like proper serious documentary and not some shitty half mocking vice doc
Rated: 0/5 No.233491
>>233488>America is properly the only real place where freedom of religionits so crazy that bill clinton even tried to push france to recognize scientology
No.233492
>>233481>>233483That kind of makes sense now.
I have never seen Ody write so passionately (writing 2 full sentences instead of 1) about anything else before.
No.233493
>>233491That's hilarious
Is it not kore less globally accepted now?
Think it's recognised as a minority religion in Ireland, I know they're tax exempt lol (probably Clinton too )
Rated: rated/5 No.233495
>>233493In Russia and Germany $cientology is banned.
No.233496
>>233493it depends on a country a lot
in finland scientology is not recognized as a religion mostly because they failed to provide a document of what they believe in. They just ignored the request.
No.233498
>>233492Eh?
Yeah he's from one of the only places on earth where scientologits will actually job discriminate against you, they own parts of his city
Even fallout made a joke about it, ie they survive and fighting china town lol
Rated: 4/5 No.233499
>>233495Isn't fucking aum shinrikyo still really popular in Russia?
Like the people that did that saying train attack and tried to build a nuke?
And also made an anime lol
>>233496That makes sense that's bot something you dish out yeah? It's something you obtain
Also yeah I can totally understand Germany being like that though but Russia had loads of mad cults
>>233497Sticking it on now
Is that ming the merciless lol
Rated: 0.5/5 No.233504
>>233499Ming? I guess you are referring to an example of Sci Fi
Which in Unarius is an example of a “psychological drama of the past”.
I think I will Unarius sperg out
Maybe I should give their past life therapies a try lol
Yeah aum shinrikyo has an outsized presence in Russia
No.233506
>>233504Yeah flash Gordon dude
>>233504That's what I mean, how this band but psycho terror anime death cult is fine
Didn't their leader get hung recently
Also yes !
We should do a boomer/doomer Cult thing next year because we all know one or two for some reason haha
Plus they're interesting as fuck
Rated: 0/5 No.233508
>>233504There's a cool af non fiction writer I like who you've probably read stuff from and not noticed that writes quite a lot a outbtgis stuff now
He wrote the book "on the road to tom clancy"
Wouldn't think he was in a kill squad during the gulf war lol
He's back in uni atm in utah doing a PhD in the Rosicrucians, he was the one that clued me into the summum, and their "church" dunno what you call a pyramid that people still use, has the founder mummified and place slap bang in the middle of it
Rated: 5/5 No.233672
>>233442ahahahaha you dumb jew
enlightened being uses lies to promote vehicles, for there is no lies
get it?
No.233673
>>233672Artists use lies to tell the truth man
Rated: 1/5 No.233675
>>233673yes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C5%ABlamadhyamakak%C4%81rik%C4%81
also related to the christian parable sense
No.233680
>>233675Ain't clicking that, just screen the bota youn think I should read
Rated: 3/5 No.233692
Kotia falling for fucking scientology of all things is like gordon ramsay closing up his shop, getting into his supercar and then proclaiming "at the end of the day there is nothing better than a mcdonalds cheeseburger"
>scientology is just old buddhism which is just based on old finno-ugrism, which is the only real and the only religion that matters
this is of course turbo retarded.
Being a derivative of something doesnt shield it of criticism.
>old buddhism
then follow that.
>old finno-ugrism
then follow that.
DO NOT FOLLOW RETARDED HOLLYWOOD FAST FOOD RELIGION
Even the name is telling, scientology and then without proving shit they just start making up shit lmaooooooo, how is that related to science in any way? The thetan bullshit you peddled in the past here was unbeliveably retarded too. Science my ass.
How did you fall for this shit?