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>>228642

giving me cheap temu vibs lol :DDD

>>228643
yeh none of that will be standing in 20 years

>>228644
U're just jealous about the collapse of the western civilization and the rise of East Asia :DDD

>>228645
china isn't rising anywhere

didn't manage to escape middle income trap and already catastrophic looking population pyramid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>228646
Long Kong: lies, China strong!!1 :D

Also damn that population pyramid on the India is still going strong (probably get offed soon as well)

>>228650
I heard the fertility rate is already collapsing or something

thats a lot of description about Big Guy

i was thinking about the description literally yesterday. im reading harry potter. not that i havent read them before many times, but because im trying to seriously study impactful literature. well mainly the pace and such, because i already know much about story elements.

im interested how it turns from child-like fairytale, to more serious and mature tone, specifically. you know, the first three books are for kids, but then it turns into young adult liteature and darker and darker. i mean, it makes sense, because harry and friends grow older as the story progresses. it fascinates me, because lot of people grew up with the series and the series grew up with them. dont you think thats kinda cool?

anyway about character descriptions.. in harry potter they are very simple. rowling only says very few things about characters looks and such, yet they are extremely memorable and real. this, also fascinates me.

now, one might say. harry pottah? thats not very serious literature.. it YA literature, so it will never be cool literature! i beg to differ. its impactful, and impact matters a lot. after all, there was time when whole world read these books and wanted to know what happens next. aint that something…

>>228826
harry potter actually good

kgs said freemasons wrote it and it is quite probable because the themes are inherently universal and pretty complex (like the hallows and master of death is perfect example)

>>228826
Well, as you might know, I've never read Harry Potter and only watched films… Well, I weren't a reading kid. Even if we had Anderson's books, I just didn't read them because they were boring. So, yeah, I can't say anything about young adult literature because I didn't really read any…

So, forgive me for it, but I'll talk about films instead. So, in film, Harry is just nerd kid who is thought to have no magic ability and because of dat be inferior… And at end he is king of king and defeats evil. Something like dat, I don't remember exactly how it was. So, I dunno… Harry Potter is impactful, but maybe it is just luck for Rowling. I'm not very knowledgeable about it, beyond watching video analyzing it, all I know dat it is a story dat resonated with many young people, and dat the story itself has many problems, from ethical to more. Even if it has problems, can't it still be cool? Sure, of course, not all thing is truly perfect, so it is cool…

I don't really have a problem with young adult literature though, I don't know if serious literature even exist… Most impactful short story I've read, Topaz by Ryu Murakami, is it serious literature? It was serious for me…

So, I think about Harry Potter as an adventure instead. It is an instance of modernity existing in the post modernity, maybe dat is why many young people liked it. Because it seemed like it had the romantic, adventurous spirit in the sea, or desert, of cynicism or nihilism. Maybe dat is why very old adventure book is still popular, because it has dat feeling of romantique and meaning

As for descriptions, well, if you have a lot of space, meaning a plan for many book, then you don't really need to describe explicitly the characters. Wat I think any way. Dunno, when you write a character like Harry, you think about "hmmm wat would Harry do?", though in my story there are no names and you can't easily apply to wat I write. But either way, I think people still have in their minds an imagination of humans even if yoy desceibe then without a name. The guy in the original post has a name though, monsieur Dumas. Hate dat guy

>>228895
its hero's journey, with influence taken from european mythology and folklore. namely british folklore, irish and celtic mythology. ancient greek myths and medieval symbolism.

she said it herself. she said she didnt want to re-invent mythology, because it has been refined for thousands of years.

i dont even see freemason influence there tbh.. unless, of course you credit freemasons for mythological structures and symbolism, which just sounds ridiculous. So, yeah, i would expect stronger evidence than "it has magic and symbolism therefore freemasons"

>>228905
anderson, huh? you mean andersen, who wrote children fairytales? tbh i never liked those stories as a kid either. i noticed them as simple moral lessons and rather depressing to read, even on a young age. not to disrespect influential writer, just saying how it felt..

ethical problems? ethical problems are necessary. you cant write some pure idealistic thing and expect it to resonate with anyone, because perfect world is not realistic one. this is very important to understand…

i know you dont, just saying as a side note, there is lot of elitists around..

>His work Topaz (1988) concerns a sado-masochistic woman's radical expression of her sexuality.
eh, sounds a bit more serious, maybe? i dunno, hard to say based on such short description. just sound like something that would make certain people blush..

well, there is massive amounts of factors in HP, that you contribute to its popularity. school world, magic, friendship, and the list goes on. I also noted that rowling understands social dynamics very well, its old-schoolish, like the differences between boys and girls, you know, despite rowling being left-wing feminist, the girls are very girlish and the boys are very boyish. Im pretty sure rowling made a male main character just because she understood that if she made female main character it wouldnt work. also, things like quidditch, exists because she understood how important sports are for male, especially british male, even though the story is very wiccan teenage girl to its core.. so yeah, the point is, a lot of decisions seems to come from her understanding of social dynamics, rather than just wanting to create certain type of ideal world, which makes the story more realistic.. some might say thats problematic, but others may say its the opposite. understanding the world and people, might be more important than presenting a fake one..

yea, i get that and you are right. it depends what you write and and how much.

>>229250
I really like Slytherin

They would probably be against international trade + feminism + one world global ideology in the real world (anti money/anti equality nazis)

>>229251
Yeah sister Rowling going ham in this one :DDDDD

Ran into it like within this week after AWW and Chino both obliquely mentioned Harry Potter stuff

facebook.com/bricksmasons/videos/j-k-rowling-discusses-harry-potter-and-the-masonic-connection/565476957118021/

>>229250
damn it is as i thought,,,

"Angelina, Alicia and Katie had come over, too. There were no girls on the Slytherin team – who stood, shoulder to shoulder, facing the Gryffindors, leering to a man."
"‘What’s happening?’ Ron asked Harry. ‘Why aren’t you playing? And what’s he doing here?’ He was looking at Malfoy, taking in his Slytherin Quidditch robes. ‘I’m the new Slytherin Seeker, Weasley,’ said Malfoy, smugly. ‘Everyone’s just been admiring the brooms my father’s bought our team.’"

>>229250
Well, for some reason I couldn't access this web site for two days from multiple devices under Tor… So, I'll reply to only two points and the rest tomorrow… Sorry..

Harry Potter normalizes slavery though. So, I dunno. Is slavery allowed in perfect world because just as Dobby, the slaves wanted to be slaves? There is no moral or ethical justification for such a perfect world can be had, because you cant sustain moral authority if it is built on deeply controversial ground

Are you being ironic about Rowling? If not, then for someone who might be unaware, Rowling is integrated into the British royalty basically. At least she has too much connections with the most powerful British people. She isn't in any way left wing, in Harry Potter she promotes the class system as a natural thing. She is neither a feminist, she is literally an reactionary conservative which associates herself with deeply troubling persons which names I don't even remember now… Basically, she is an opportunist without a concrete, coherent view on politics or more than dat. She is, in a sense, very toxic and sad person. So, your description of boy and girl, well, you are right about dat, they do have differences. But Rowling doesn't understand social dynamics beyond British class system very much and treats other cultures or other peoples as expendable, and closer to trash than to something that is human and needs to be respected

And on dat note, I bid you good nite… Don't let your head spin around, or you gonna become tornado…

>>229382
if you think jk rowling have a problem with trans people

wait until you read her shit on the house elf problem lmafo

>>229382
watch the yt videos (most of the video essays) on hermione's side story on house elf

its its intentionally handled badly and hilariously written

>>229382
it doesnt endorse slavery in any way. its just presents a world where slavery exists. its seen bad even in the book.

yeah you are right. maybe i should have said it better. she says to be left wing and just like most western left people she is not, but thats beyond the point, since the whole left right thing these days is only like horoscope.

so yea, she says she is left, but then you can tell she is very much into traditional roles and this whole boarding school culture, which is very conservative. so i agree with you that she is toxic, because she goes full kc tier on twitter, but i think deep down she understand people better than what it looks like outside, because of how well she wrote some of the characters and their personal problems. I think rowlings meanfulness comes from some weird idealism.

i do feel bit sorry for her though, because ive seen her make cruel mockery out of other people misfortune and problems. And that if something, is a sign of a sad miserable person.

>>229388
She's not a lefty she's a rich tory
And of course she's miserable, spending your day arguing on twitter will do that

Rated: 4/5

>>229423
you missed the point. thats literally what left is today

whining on social media with iphone

>>229423
I thought she was a legit rad fem tho? TERFs are leftists, they call for the abolition of gender roles and want to dismantle patriarchal systems.

>>229432
Uhh terfs aren't radical, if she wanted to abolish gender roles than a dude could be a mother
Tbh something she emphasises as biological female alone can do
Reactionary feminist maybe
Just read she turned down a peerage twice so that's a little based

Rated: 4/5

>>229424
Lmao yeah
That's all anything is now

Rated: 1.5/5

>>229447
> Uhh terfs aren't radical, if she wanted to abolish gender roles than a dude could be a mother

Men cannot be a mother because men cannot give birth

Tubed confusing sex with gender

>>229449
Or rather men cannot be mothers
As men can never give birth

>>229383
>>229387
Yeah, I watched an analysis of Harry Potter and and it said about how it is completely unable to critique slavery. If I remember right, Hermione freed Dobby but he just said hell naw I want to be a slave. So, yeah, it is very intentional because in the British class system, servants are always happy to serve the nobles(according to the nobles) (something like dat, don't remember it well now)
>>229388
No, dats not how it is. In the book, slaves are slaves because they want to be dat and it is the mission or responsibility of higher caste to care about "less fortunate". Don't be fooled by this, it is British classism, this doesn't describe any society but Britain. So, no, slaves exist in the book not to show how it is bad, quite the opposite. The book pretty much endorses slavery

Well I guess I agree with you, left right does look to be a horoscope. Though, going on a tangent here, example of today's America tells us that everything can degenerate quickly. Gay marriage is legal, but only for now. So, there is very real opposition to social progress world wide, and it is conservative

I dunno. For me, it looks like her description just resonates with you and so you think she must understand people better then. So, it is not for me to judge. After reading about human in book, I can tell you with big certainty, dat understanding other people is not as easy it might seem and dat we only understand easily wat is closer to us. So, in a way, if you find her characters relatable, memorable and logical, this is a sign dat she sells you particular visions of people dat you want to see. In my opinion, this cannot be understanding people good, or even good character writing, but I feel like you won't agree wity me on tjis

>>229432
>TERFS are leftists
Lol

>>229250
Yeah, well, dat dude. You know a joke? So, in my teenage years big book about dinosaur is might be only book I finished… And I good good grade for dat

I've responded to Harry Potter issue, now I'll respond about writing in general. So, you mismatch idealism here in my opinion. It is pure idealism to think dat you can "just" represent thing like slavery in a book. I don't think primary goal of literature is to resonate with people, no. So, no, watever world a writer can come up with, with elf or just magical academy, the writer superimposes own ideology onto those structures. No text is free from ideology, and such, realism is a very dull ideology dat has no relation to observable reality as in everyday living. Just like Soviet Realism was only a fetish and cult like elevation of everything people, just realism might be as well the same, a fetish

Topaz is about compassion to the less fortunate, this short description is basically a lie. Heinous lie, but watever. Postmodernism always have double meanings to it. I mention it because even if Murakami was a misogynist(he is), his intent was to create empathy to someone who traditionally wouldn't have

Well, you might be right in your analysis. I don't have problem here, and where I did I wrote about it in other post. So I agree with you here on all excluding dat. Instead, I'll ask you a question. Do you really think dat this wat literature should be? Dat everything is relatable, boys will be boys, girls will be girls. Dat main character is male and boys like sport. It is all true, but don't you feel like when these things get written in story, they suddenly become not real? That they no longer can represent reality and instead devolve into normative prescriptions. So, my question is, do you want girls to be girls and boys to be boys forver, without any derivations, any transgressions, do you want dat no popular literature to have boys dat not really want to be boys? You know, girls will be girls is actually not true. Many girls are not like dat, and they don't conform to expectations. So, do you really think dat realism worth any grain of salt, considering dat it cannot represent historically marginalized groups faithfully or objectively? While I said dat you are right and I don't have a problem, I say dat with understanding of the copyrighter mindset dat we all have to a degree. Which mandates us into convergence. But dat is just a form of violence

>>229449
Yeah you are
Gender roles are not biological sexual roles a biological female can give birth but they don't have to be a mother, can be a father who gives a fuck, her definition dosentbhave any room for that.
I'm starting to think you're legitimately brain damaged
Literally arguing against yourself
>>229454
Honestly a bafoon
Also that's a plot and a half hahaha

Rated: 5/5

>>229450
Mother is a role not a function you fucking retarded European
A lot of people can't have kids and have families

Rated: 3/5