[-] No. 301781 [PM]
>>301780I remember when he was trying to conflate social media propaganda with ZIGGER state propaganda, funny shit. It’s like the Terry Davis analogy about the bird and the desktop computer.
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No. 301818 [PM]
Something something Soviet Union not ratifying the Geneva convention.
Something something not being a member of the Red Cross and not allowing it to inspect Soviet POW camps.
Something something Soviets not allowing neutral protecting powers (like Switzerland or Sweden) inspecting the camps, delivering food packages, or documenting abuses.
Something something Stalin refusing to acknowledge or advocate for its own POWs.
I truly don't want to justify the Germans (entirely) because if Germans were slightly just slightly even remotely humane maybe slavs would consider deserting the soviet army, aiding the germans, and ultimately breaking the soviet morale and faith in it's own leadership (I believe this last point was crucial for Soviet war effort). Maybe just maybe if they had their feet on the ground instead of daydreaming about krautchan shit they wouldn't have lost the war the way they did and wouldn't have doomed the west or even the entire world in the process.
Anyway, if not even Soviet leadership viewed POWs captured by Germans as humans, and likewise refused to play along international norms for deeming them as bourgeoisie spooks, why'd one expect the German high command to care about them given the whole context of the war? I imagine a German soldier saying "uh why don't we give those guys a blanket" and then immediately getting told the following "you know that there are German soldiers without a blanket too right? we can't afford to help an enemy when our own troops are struggling…". If Germans helped the local populace in any way, Soviets would exploit this "weakness" since it'd inevitably be a constraint for the German army to allocate much needed resources away from the army. Since Germans didn't do this, Soviets exploited this through propaganda and aiding partisans beyond the army lines, hindering the effort of the German army by cutting off logistics and forcing troops to deal with partisans instead. For soviets this was just "pragmatism" of the war, but really it had a lot to do with the USSR not being and not behaving like a traditional state which treated it's own people as ends towards a goal rather than human beings.
So yeah war against USSR could only end in total victory or total defeat. There simply can be no other kind of compromise with that kind of "country" or leadership, so yeah "sorry not sorry" was the unfortunate inevitable conclusion of the SS towards the policies on POWs and treatment of locals.
If anything I'd say the war was still bound to a few pragmatic and humane levels of mutual "respect" that are often overlooked… Like, if Germans were 100% desperate and truly didn't view Soviets as humans they would have used literally every trick up their sleeve, including but not limited to mustard gas. I remember once my great grandmother told me she recalled a German soldier passing by and gaving her family a candy for her (when she was like 5~) lol. Supposedly the ss were very scary though.
No. 301820 [PM]
>>301818wait wasnt this post above me when i posted 'le happy cosmo grrk ^-^'
or am i trippin
No. 301841 [PM]
>>301820They used everything , he's just ass mad evwn though he's half russian
Spic at hert though God bless
Rated: rated/5 No. 301844 [PM]
>>301841mexico slave is right tho
No. 301845 [PM]
>>301844Okay
Say thanks to them anyway
Rated: 3.5/5 No. 301848 [PM]
>>301841unintelligible delusional retarded and obsessed post by liam #90000585 with nothing valuable to add or say ever in his entire life.
Nothing new under the sun as always
>>301847ok Im waiting
No. 301849 [PM]
>>301847He doesn't look old enough to drive wtf
Rated: 0/5 No. 301852 [PM]
>>301851That me !
Rated: 1/5 No. 301889 [PM]
My god you people are disgusting
>>301779Ok this might be conceivable, Germans believed in Hitler until the very end
>>301780> Most russians got killed by russiansAre you trolling? Of fucking course this is not true
>>301818You say some insane shit. Geneva convention🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 my god German soldiers didnt view Russians as humans in slightest, on Eastern front for arbitrary executions no German ever was reprimanded, no German ever was reprimanded for stealing and rape, I dunno, not gonna read the rest of this bullshit
No. 301890 [PM]
>>301889Do NOT look up who Stalin was little bro, you will see nightmares
No. 301892 [PM]
>>301891> Stalin didnt made 3 400 000~ POW die in cruelest cicumstances. Didnt make slaves of ordinary people and POW, didnt steal and stripped peasants of food only then to shoot them or make them "evacuate" and die on the road to a random place. What the fuck you on you moronYou really are retarded.
No. 301893 [PM]
>>301892“Stalin totally didn’t oversee a regime that murdered millions of people and committed genocide, trust me I am a brainwashed zigger!”
No. 301894 [PM]
>>301889Yes, even Nazi Germany of all nations signed it. The ussr in the other hand disregarded every kind of international framework/protocol largely because Sralin wanted to hide/mask his own atrocities. The implications is obvious for any foreign nation: why should we care to play by the rules if they will play by their own contradictory/non-existant moral framework? Not Finland not nazi germany not anyone has any reason to offer mercy because it will only be weaponized against them.
Again, Sralin cared no more about the life of soviet POWs than Hitler and you fully ignore this. Only in retrospective their ilves suddenly became important not because a heart suddenly appeared in that bolshevik void, but because they serve as a propaganda tool and weaponization against nazism which soviet literature exploited to brainwash rutards.
You can't blame one without blaming the other, that's the entire point. And the fact that you refuse to read it proves you lack the most basic intention of any kind of introspection.
Textbook rushism.
No. 301896 [PM]
>>301891Your own country does not value as a human being you little nigger. Isn't it more humane to put you out of your misery and doomed culture of slavery?
Even if the nazis committed genocide, they didn't commit it on their own people, something russians have plenty of track record of.
Ody was right, you are a bird looking at a computer screen. War crime is a western invention, you do not understand what it is and cannot place it anywhere in the stack because your kind commits warcrimes on itself everyday. Geneva convention rests on the belief that a human being is valuable and it needs to be valued and treasured. Since your kind never got to this milestone, the word 'war crime' is meaningless.
There is a culling of your kind going on RIGHT NOW and funnily enough most russians expect it to continue and expect another wave of mobilization, yet this simple fact of reality repeating itself escapes your simplistic mind hyperfocuses on another tribe doing the same thing in the past
No. 301897 [PM]
>>301892Why do you have to pretend to be a moron
>>301894What the fuck you on about. Im talking about German soldiers executing peasants in Ukraine because they felt Ukranians were inferior, wat you do talk about? Did Stalin fuck you in the ass or why do you try to love Nazis so much
>>301896You retarded monkey, do you have anything to say about the eastern front or no? No you fucking dont because you are clueless about it
No. 301900 [PM]
>>301897>talk about this hyperspecific point in time where we wuz victimz!!!!no
You are the dumbest nigger on earth. You belong in the SMO to fulfill the destiny your thinking nets you. You vermin invade every country that borders you and make them worse.
You retards are invading ukraine AND georgia right now. Seeing moscow getting bombed makes me want to pop a champagne and celebrate every time I see it.
No. 301902 [PM]
>>301897>Im talking about German soldiers executing peasants in Ukraine because they felt Ukranians were inferiorDid I deny this?
Did I say this okay?
The soviet apparatus offered the Germans the framework for this to happen with complete impunity and to this very day russians still exploit the same narrative to push for their own barbaric genocidal goals which are happening right now. Sralin was literally willing to give up his own child's life as long as it meant he survived. Many Americans probably think this. But the true reality is so wicked many people won't be able to comprehend it even if they tried. I have no doubt Sralin was willing to give up his own life if that meant survival of the soviet apparatus and death of his enemies if at the it would be enough to make other people suffer.
You have people treasuring all lives, you have people treasuring the lives of their direct family only, and finally you have russians (and anyone within brainwashed enough to push their narrative: Georgians, Ukrainians, et al) who won't even treasure their own lives just for the sake of extending generalized suffering and misery; and then one wonders why nazis had such profound disdain for russian lives which extended to russia's immediate neighbors?
The very attempt to question the doomed russian idiosyncrasy is enough to be tortured and killed by russians to this very day. Nazism itself could only exist because it fed on sovorussian reality and the grim prospect of becoming a part of it.
No. 301903 [PM]
>>301900You bitch this thread is about Nazi eastern front, not watever fantasy you have. Fuck yourself in the ass, thats Im gonna say, I want to talk about German soldiers who were barbarians and these mentally retarded people go on tangents about random shit
>>301901What does this have to do with anything. I did not mention stalin, I did not want to talk about stalin, and yet you come here with your bizzare walls of text talking about crazy retarded shit that I have no interest in. The point of this thread is German soldiers at the eastern front and what they did to Soviet POW and peasants, thats all, but you come here and write absolutely dead brain walls of text. Sure. I dont know and dont understand wat you on about, and I dont want. Watever ghosts you are fighting, this has nothing to do with wat interests me. I havent yet read about Soviet point of view, I cant and I wont go into those places. So, watever, piss the fuck off with your inane bullshit
No. 301904 [PM]
>>301903>I want to talk about German soldiers who were barbariansYou are right bro, da nazis are ebul, berry-berry ebul. Killed peepo and shieeet.
>and these mentally retarded people go on tangents about random shitall that random shit russians committed on themselves were 100 times more deadlier than da ebul nazis. Do you even understand this frame of reference? The barbarian nazi soldiers were a drop in the bucket full of blood. That's why you get the replies you got.
No. 301908 [PM]
>>301907You live in a fascist state committing genocide against Ukraine.