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lol it's literally just giving russia everything they want

Sounds like a faked leak tbh

If I was Ukraine thi I'd agree to all that basically if I got instant NATO membership after + any remaining Russians in Ukraine being sent to the occupied territories or the rest of Russia.

>According to a report…
>Undisclosed sources
literally gossip

>source: strana
lol, literally a copycat of RIA Novosti (read: russian propaganda) and literally one of the most unreliable new sources even before the war. see:
stopfake org/en/strana-ua-or-strana-ru-how-a-sanctioned-site-disseminates-banned-kremlin-messages-in-ukraine/

"According to a rating presented by the prominent Ukrainian media watchdog, the Institute of Mass Information, Strana.ua is one of the top five most unreliable media sites in Ukraine, often resorting to hate speech and manipulative, distorted headlines. "

At some point it literally said that giving russian passports to Ukrainians forcibly annexed into russia does not violate any international law, lol.

Not even gonna bother since I'm sure that strana's sources are:
>According to a report…
>Undisclosed sources…

"The Trump plan" is obviously the hot topic so whoever has any "news" about it is gonna receive attention.


Still, let's assume this is truthful just for the sake of it.
Nothing changes.
>Plan too favorable for russia
Ukraine not gonna accept it
>Plan too favorable for Ukraine
russia not gonna accept it
>Plan designed to be as neutral as possible
Neither side is gonna accept it.

Ukraine won't accept anything legally obliging it to "accept the lost territories".
russia won't accept anything but unconditional surrender.

>Drumpf makes plan favorable for russia
Ukraine doesn't accept, US still supports Ukraine but is slightly more secretive about it
>Drumpf makes neutral plan or plan favorable for Ukraine
Drumpf: "We offered the russians an EXCELLENT deal, they are foolish and didn't accept it, thus we will support Ukraine more than ever before". Trick: In reality Drumpf isn't willing to send more money than Bidet, instead tries to force Europoors to cooperate further, they say yes, but then plan gets stopped by EU bureacracy, nothing changes.

tl;dr nothing changes

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Nigger why you ghost bump the thread
Like you could literally try to argue any of the points I brought up if you really care
And if you don't why keep bumping it

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>>179511
Sorry

>>179186
that does seem reasonable btw
like, maaaaaaaaybe ruchuds win (if u can call it a win) if wectoids keep being as lola as they are - like im pretty sure there could be a possibility where ukraine just loses because generally weaker (rusia never captures kyiv or even dnepr or even kherson tho, just drumnbass xD)
>unconditional surrender
imagine being pootin :DDD
that guy must be so high xD

>Nigger why you ghost bump the thread
mayb he wanted other ppl to comment w
well i did nya

also i think what pootin really really wanted is just bombing drumnbass into shit more or less
the whole ukraine would be a nice bonus but destroying its industrial heartland (i guess w) is essentially turning it into just another weak yuropoorean state - i mean its still kinda retarded but u can see the logic at least (immediate short term reward of not shitting his pants over a possible invasion)

This is in the kind of photo I imagine him posing to convet
It'll all be ogre soon

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>>180125
damn being prez really ages u up
macabre w

>>180130
He looks like he is 60 or some shit

Putin is probably on botox or some shit :DDD

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>>180160
we were told by the entire Western media and political class for the past 3 years that the Ukraine war isn't a US-NATO proxy war. So why should it matter what Trump decides? Zelensky and the Azov Nazis are sovereign right? They have full agency. The US can't do anything to force negotiations, because they have agency Right? Remember agency? So he can continue the war for as long as he likes, as it's not a proxy war

>>180160
the point is he looked MUCH better before the war started ><
the other example in my head is the obama guy - he started to look really grandpa after 8 years of his presidency w
>Putin is probably on botox or some shit
they all say puting is on botox and he most likely is
he still looks like ass tho xD
he looked decent in da 00s tho i guess

>>180189
>we were told by the entire Western media and political class for the past 3 years that the Ukraine war isn't a US-NATO proxy war
they are just trying to say it's not one they started or planned

>So why should it matter what Trump decides?
He supports Ukrainian troops killing russians which is in everyone's best interest

>sovereign right?
yes

>Azov Nazis
Wish this was a thing. Whatever is left of Azov nazis now include jews and iirc even a few browns.

>The US can't do anything to force negotiations
They can negotiate all they want but doesn't mean Ukraine and more specifically russia will accept the terms.

>So he can continue the war for as long as he likes
the war isn't gonna stop until Putin decides to stop it. There's nothing to gain from letting Putin take a break and try again in a few years. Putin eventually expects/demands nothing short of unconditional surrender.

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>>180193
>they are just trying to say it's not one they started or planned
? all those who participated in laundering the US-NATO proxy war in Ukraine and intentionally destroyed the country just so they could inflict some damage on Russia are among the most morally depraved scum alive. And that goes back to Bush who said Ukraine will be part of NATO, then Obama and VP Genocide Joe who did the 2014 coup, and then Trump who began sending advanced weaponry to Azov Nazis, and then Genocide Joe who launched the proxy-war in full, and all those who then helped launder it, from AOCIA to Bernie Sanders to every single elected Democrat and Republican
>Wish this was a thing. Whatever is left of Azov nazis now include jews and iirc even a few browns

US-NATO-Israeli empire, or the Fourth Reich

>>180200
This was the US ruling class uniting to destroy a country, kill hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, just so they could get a percentage or two up on what they see as their geopolitical rival in the Middle East and Eastern Europe
A total fucking Mickey mouse war

>>180200
You know what? let's even assume all the absolute bollocks you said is true. How fucking useless is russia that US can shift politics so easily in a country at the other side of the globe, a country neighboring russia itself, where roughly 1/4 of the population is partially/entirely ethnically russian, and with centuries of shared history?

After "the coup" russia didn't even attempt to maintain or work out diplomatic relationships, instead it outright annexed Ukrainian territory and started an all out civil war by sending russians to coup regional governments which suceeded in Donetsk and Lugansk, and then supplying those same people with modern military grade weapons and resources. All after 2 decades before pledging to respect Ukrainian sovereignity, after Ukraine willingly gave up for free it's entire nuclear arsenal.

>goes back to Bush who said Ukraine will be part of NATO
Yeah the entire shitshow could have been avoided if Ukraine was just accepted into NATO. But russia's puppet bitch in Germany (Merkel) cucked Ukraine just to be friends with russia, aditionally making Germany entirely dependant on russian gas.

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>>180200
> Trump who began sending advanced weaponry to Azov Nazis
Drumpf was/is the one who opposes supplying Ukraine because he thinks it's a waste of money.

Wish this was true and Azov/Ukraine received advanced weaponty years ago.

Like wish this was all true but it's completely the other way round: only after the war began - U.S. pledged sending a small part of it's outdated equipment or that which is about to reach the end of it's usable life.
Then it takes months and in a few cases years to arrive, and/or it doesn't even arrive in full :DD

NATO and Yurop has tons of expired cold-war weapons made specifically to kill russians which were never used.

Now that's time they can be used what they are made for, NATO decides to keep the majority of those locked in their own countries, aditionally spends great loads of money in maintenance - instead of just sending them to Ukraine :DD

But honestly I can understand the restraint. Giving those to Ukraine would be like giving money to a bsr :DD
Pic related :DD

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